My chatlogs with @anonymouSabu
My chatlogs with @anonymouSabu-->
Submitted by exiledsurfer on Fri, 2012-03-09 13:02. -->
@jamesrbuk of the Guardian has published partial chatlogs of his conversations with the Lulzsec Hacker turned FBI Informant, @anonymouSabu, and described how he got into conversation with Monsegur. As i follow both of them on twitter, i watched, and was involved with their public exchanges on twitter. This was the end at the end of July, AFTER Sabu had already turned FBI Informant. At that time, i was spending time in the IRC chatroom #Voice, which Topiary had set up to encourage artists to do artwork about #antisec. At that time, most of the anons and lulzsec looked at me favorably because i was doing a lot of artwork commenting on their activities. So i was party to the exchange between James Ball and Sabu, and encouraged Sabu to do an interview with James, to give "his" side of the story on the article which James had published about The Jester's claims of Sabu being involved with the Jihadist movement. So i can confirm that this conversation took place between James and Sabu, because Sabu provided me a link to one of their chats. The link to that chat is edited in the chat transcripts i release below, because it is up to James Ball to release that chat if he chooses to.
I release here (unedited) all of the conversations i had with Sabu in IRC, the rest of my interaction with him was over twitter. We chatted only thrice in IRC, once on the 30th of July, and then again on the 1st and 3rd of August. This was apparently at the time that he was already an FBI Informant. The complete transcript of the three conversations is pasted here in one batch
07-30-11
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7:02pm
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i am here when u and james are ready
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7:16pm
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hi
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7:17pm
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hey
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7:17pm
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good on ya.
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7:17pm
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dont let me push u into anything you feel is wrong
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7:18pm
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is james here in the irc yet?
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7:19pm
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I dont nkow he hasnt hit me up
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7:19pm
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my position: I'm not doing interviews or quotes hence I asked him to keep things between gentlemen
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7:19pm
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ok. it has moved beyond that and u need to revise your strategy
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7:19pm
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(my opinion)
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7:19pm
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original: http://pastie.org/priv
(This was a link to Sabus chat with James Ball of the Guardian. It is up to james to release it if he chooses)
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7:20pm
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thank you. will not be forwarded. let me read it.
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7:20pm
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yes. thats meant to stay private
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7:20pm
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its his and my talk
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7:21pm
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ok. let him know that u gave it to me; he wont have a prob with it.
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7:21pm
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but he should know that u r giving me context.
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7:23pm
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btw, i had some email with beast; i had offered to do vid for one of his songs' apparently he got bizi and hasnt gotten back to me.
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7:27pm
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hit him up again, tell him I sent you
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7:27pm
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hes a good dude
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7:27pm
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i have met him, seen in his eyes, he's ok, just young
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7:27pm
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i'm still reading
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7:29pm
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ok. so here's my take:
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7:29pm
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he's being fair with you. he's curious.
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7:30pm
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and he has generally held his side of the bargain.
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7:30pm
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and this is what "you" are up against:
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7:30pm
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met who? beast?
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7:30pm
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you are less up against what he actually wrote - i read it, i share his opinoin that u do not come out as unfavorably as u have been protrayed
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7:30pm
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no, i met james
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7:30pm
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in england
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7:31pm
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i interviewed him
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7:31pm
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oh, nice.
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7:31pm
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its on my website.
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7:31pm
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I'll check it out
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7:31pm
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by the way, it is nice to meet you mate
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7:31pm
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i have been "defending" him ever since, because he has a critical mind.
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7:31pm
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we never were properly introduced
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7:31pm
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i have just been writing for the inevitability..no reason to jump up and down...
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7:31pm
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nice to meet you too.
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7:32pm
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anyway,, here is your situation, as i see it:
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7:32pm
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it is the perception of those who read the article that is your problem
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7:32pm
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i am continually defending james on this point with the wikileaks cultists
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7:33pm
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who think that raising questions critically, esamining them in the media, leads to people or issues being discredited
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7:33pm
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and james is often misread
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7:33pm
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especialy when he collabs with others at the guardian
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7:33pm
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so, this is a "test tube" so to speak of what happens in the media.
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7:34pm
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what we are "all" fighting against.
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7:35pm
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yeah
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7:35pm
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so, i think two things after reading this transcript:
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7:35pm
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one: it should be public, whatever your previous opinion about its existence IS, or WAS.
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7:36pm
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two:
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7:36pm
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b/c of lulzsec you are recognized as a figure. you have chosen to be public on twitter, and you are no longer "anon"
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7:36pm
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you are therefore in this position:
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7:37pm
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1. speaking for "anon" while being sabu
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7:37pm
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and having to defend sabu on behalf of anon
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7:37pm
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you have put yourself in a position beyond the lulz - you are a political player now
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7:37pm
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so, you can do one of two things:
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7:38pm
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fade away, and jsut do what you do, and remove your personality from the public.
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7:38pm
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btw it is interesting to get such a thorough pov.
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7:38pm
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2., step ut to the plate and play smarter.
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7:39pm
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i know that there are segments of anon that think that lulzsec has played fast and loose and taken unnecessary risks
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7:39pm
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and i'll accept at face value that this "face" of anon is "dead"
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7:40pm
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but YOU, are NOT, and YOU "are" the next most visible face of anon.
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7:40pm
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if you put out a press release, you can't say "that's all i have to say about it"...
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7:40pm
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"it's all in the press release"
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7:41pm
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you can't expect to tweet what you tweet, and only comm by defending what you tweet.
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7:44pm
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if there is no more to the story what else is expected? for me to bullshit and make up more points to appease people?
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7:44pm
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everything is clearly written
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7:45pm
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and yet, here we are sabu. you and i in a back channel discussing it...
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7:45pm
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after doing it publicly for almos t two hours.
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7:45pm
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so, lets leave it at this for now.
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7:45pm
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james told me via DM that he would go on the record with you if u were willing.
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7:46pm
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i didnt tweet that out .. i just suggested it.
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7:46pm
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you have seen that i challenged him to get approval from his editors to write a retraction piece.
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7:47pm
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if i can make it happen, it is good for BOTH of you.
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7:47pm
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there are people and media i would like to stfu as well.
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7:48pm
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thats fine
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7:48pm
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but I'm not making an interview out of this sorry.
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7:48pm
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ok. as i said, it's my advice.
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7:49pm
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thanks for the advice, but im no giving anyone an interview.
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7:49pm
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I'm not putting money into his pocket more than I already have
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7:49pm
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if he wants to talk like a gentlemen so be it
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7:49pm
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i've been in media for 30 years - on all sides of it.. a paid whore, an idealistic ournalist.
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7:51pm
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nd my only point is that you have made certain choices in your actions that demand certain compromises... ones whichare two edged swards. you are on the bleeding edge of the sword right now, when you could be wielding it..
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7:51pm
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ya dig what i mean?
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7:53pm
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again, I refuse to give anyone an interview. I'm not changing my position on it. I'm not trying to be a dick. but I'm not giving him or anyone an interview and thats final about it
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7:53pm
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ok
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7:53pm
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i dont think u are being a dick.
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7:53pm
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dicks are way different.
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7:53pm
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me giving him an interview does nothing to counter whats already happened
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7:54pm
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and yet, you are defending yourself on twitter.
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7:54pm
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you don't see the contradiction? not to be a dick, sabu.
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7:58pm
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I don't get your point
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7:58pm
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my point is, you are defending yourself in 140 character bursts
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7:59pm
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I'm responding to peoples points on twitter and going after journalists who are one sided, and post press releases
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7:59pm
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what does that have to do with me giving some kid in the uk an interview I dont want to give him
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7:59pm
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not from an observer's point of view...
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7:59pm
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the only way that interview will work is if you both completely address every single point I've addressed in 3,500 tweets
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7:59pm
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if you do that then you both will have to write a book, not an article.
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8:00pm
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heh. tall challenge.
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8:00pm
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let me digest this, ok?
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8:00pm
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let's leave it for now.
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8:00pm
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ok
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8:01pm
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hey. what's up?
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1:28pm
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got your tweet
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1:34pm
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?
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2:04pm
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hi
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2:04pm
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so I spoke to your boy james yesterday
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2:04pm
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it was disasterous on his part
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2:04pm
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he admitted so many many ugly things about his journalism
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2:04pm
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but defended the article to the end
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2:16pm
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ok.
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2:16pm
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good to know
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2:16pm
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did he understand his admissions, or is that your assesment
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2:17pm
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btw, did u see this: http://bit.ly/nG2mXU
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2:25pm
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indeed. pretty cool
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2:26pm
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just did a new avatar for anonymousIRC: he'll tweet it out in a few minutes, so wait until he tweets if u intend to pass it on: http://bit.ly/piYS13
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2:29pm
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yes we'll supposed to be coordinating
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2:32pm
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2:34pm
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I want one done
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2:34pm
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but not sure how to approach it
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2:34pm
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let me know
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2:34pm
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what do you suggest I do regarding my avatar?
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2:34pm
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hahah
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2:34pm
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use the one you made and released
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2:34pm
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or
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2:34pm
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i wanted to make you a sultan
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2:34pm
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I leave it to you
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2:34pm
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"abu"
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2:34pm
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I give you 100% creative control of my new avatar
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2:34pm
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its like so obvious
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2:34pm
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but make it cool
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2:34pm
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or
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2:34pm
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i'll make a few
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2:34pm
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yes please
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2:35pm
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link u to them on my site, you choose
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2:35pm
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right now i need to eat something
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2:35pm
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thanks. something revolutionary if possible and with a free topiary in there and tflow if you cna fit it
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2:35pm
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hmnnn
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2:35pm
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that's a tall order
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2:35pm
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hahahahahahahah
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2:35pm
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and i know you are a short bastard. the jester told me
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2:41pm
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which flavor of "revolutionary" do u have in your mind's eye?
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2:42pm
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short?
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2:42pm
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haha ok
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2:42pm
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eh, just be creative. link me when done
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2:42pm
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<#
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2:42pm
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thanks.
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2:42pm
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rightio.
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08-01-11
8:51pm
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Sabu is now available.
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01:44am
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hey, you around?
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01:44am
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i have what i think is a pretty cool aveetar
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04:37am
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05:25am
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hey.
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05:54am
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and: Free Topiary and Mercedes | http://bit.ly/q9m0mm #lulzsec #antisec #anonymous
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06:59am
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hi
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06:59am
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hi
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07:00am
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so, this is the humorous light apporach.. but still with an edge and incorporating history...
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07:00am
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along with the present
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07:00am
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can you read arabic?
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07:00am
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no and also thank you. but I would never say free ryan considerin hes taken down both tflow and topiary and hes not our mate
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07:01am
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the guys a piece of shit
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07:01am
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oops sorry
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07:01am
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what names do u want
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07:01am
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(remember i am new to all of what has happened between all of you)
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07:02am
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or are u not interested in the style at all of that
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07:04am
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no its ok
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07:04am
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hmm
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07:04am
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i think you on a magic carpet is fucking kewl
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07:04am
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topiary / tflow / mercedes (or no) / abhaxes
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07:04am
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yes
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07:04am
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its leetskeet
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07:05am
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gimme exactly the four names you want, please.
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07:05am
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those are the names brother
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07:05am
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i though u werent sure about mercedes, thats how i understood
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07:06am
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yeah well I didnt know her
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07:06am
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but its absurd
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07:07am
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ok; you want me to sign it or not
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07:07am
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you can have it as is with now providence on who did it, or credit me, your choice...
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07:08am
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it can be a private thing between us, or you can tout it publicly, i'm cool wither way
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07:09am
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sin it my brother
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07:09am
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sin
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07:14am
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here it is:
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07:15am
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did u catch my tweet that @wikileaks is now following the @Lulzsec account?
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07:27am
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here's another version, without the text and the free people stuff, if u want to use that instead, or later:
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07:48am
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ok let me see
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07:48am
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click those two links
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07:48am
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one with your name and the free etc.. and one without
#ITYS
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